Comments on: But why are you such an idiot?

By: zilla

zilla — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:49:12 +0000

I used to listen to them on their Sirius show or via podcast almost every day. Once I listened for a few months, it just sort of wore me down. I think they can be fairly amusing, but it just got to be a story of hearing the same old thing every day. I got bored with it.

That said, Steven has talked about the Liverpool thing consistently on their show. He’s had heated exchanges with both Nick and their callers about it. It came up at least once a week, and he would say things that were much worse than what he said on TV. Naturally, since it IS television, he had to deal with the network people, and I’m glad they apparently smacked him for it. I think he knows he’s wrong, he just likes to wind Liverpool fans up.

Second, Nick isn’t a pushover. He just doesn’t care. That’s a huge difference. Steven would argue with a fence post if he thought it felt differently about something than him. Nick just won’t bother arguing because he’s about 10 times more secure about what he thinks than Steven is. Steven has to annoy you into seeing that he’s right. Nick just knows he is.

By: Spectator

Spectator — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:25:38 +0000

I’m kind of ashamed to say that I saw both the original incident AND the apology. I find FFF kind of endearing, especially some of the phone calls, like when 14-year-old kids call in to say that the U.S. should hire Sir Alex as their coach. Yes, Steven’s comments were meant to wind up the fat bloke and were in very bad taste, but probably are not worthy of death threats. I thought the apology was heartfelt and genuine. And yes we have to take what we can get. Oh, and at least FFF have been very critical of U.S. soccer and the MLS, despite the obvious connections between Fox Soccer Channel.

By: garth

garth — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:54:00 +0000

I’ll grant that. Props to them for having the balls to tackle a radio show and FFF in the US.

By: Brad Henry

Brad Henry — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:42:32 +0000

You guys have made good points but until you can find Americans who are willing to host a football show and are well informed, You are stuck with Nick and Steven. But i dont want you to get random americans to host the show just because you dont want to English people to do it. You guys should be gratefull to Nick and Steven for being bold enough to host a football show in a country where only a minority of its citizens follow it. I’m at a point where I dont care who brings football to Canada and the US as long as they are well informed, passinate, and entertaing to a point regardless of where they are from. All that matters is that they LOVE football. S & N has been great for football in its infancy satge in the States, but maybe you’re right and change is needed. But we including you will always be enternaly great for what they have for us.

By: LG

LG — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:42:49 +0000

I think Garth hit it on the head when he said that those two twats know football news but they don’t actually know shit about the game. Fuck the accent bullshit, I two can have a fake English accent, does that make me an expert on soccer??…think not my fruends. Furthermore, they are extremely annoying to look at and I doubt either one of them ever took the field in a competitive match after the age of 8.

Brad Henry – you’re confused. If you’re suggesting that Americans think the world revolves around America because Americans would like informed Americans to host a soccer show then you’re as confused as the two dildos hosting the show.

By: David

David — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:11:48 +0000

I listened to Nick and Steven’s Podcast (yes, I know, I know) and heard his initial apology on his first radio show back – and like his one on the FFF (or FFPh), it was Giambi-esque. He apologized for NOTHING.

And truthfully, I love it. He basically said “if you were offended, I am sorry.” Not sorry about what he said – but sorry about THE OFFENDED PARTY being offended. Semantic goodness abound! He didn’t cave in – I can admire that. Sure, he’s still a raving douche, but a stubborn one.

I do like Nick, though, although I wish he’d not be such a pushover – but it’s more Steven is a bully – Nick’s just trying to do a TV show.

All in all, give me the damn show. I read enough soccer web sites to carry two hours and not offend millions of fans everywhere. AND I’m American, damnit.

By: garth

garth — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:24:50 +0000

Steven and Nick are well informed when it comes to football news. Being informed about football is a different matter.
Steven IS entitled to his opinion. And when his opinion places Liverpool and Hillsborough together in a disparaging manner, we are entitled to call him a twat.
And lastly, your Brit-baseball analogy is crap.
Here’s a more accurate one: would two Croatians hosting a Croatian basketball program seem odd to you? Would you demand American hosts for that show?

By: Brad Henry

Brad Henry — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:41:21 +0000

you guys should back off of Steven ! Everyone knows that he is very passinate about the sport of football. And he should be intitil to his opinion. And he did not read his “apology off the teleprompter” he apologized the day he came on his radio. And he never blamed Liverpool for Heysel and Hillsbourough. Just so you know Steven and Nick are very well imformed when it comes to football. In reference to the person saying that Americans should be hosting the show, thats very ignorant. The world doesnt revolve around America. This is as dumb as having two Britsh people talking about Baseball. In conclusion if you dont like them listen to the 2 G’s and have fun sleeping in the process.

By: Mizzle187

Mizzle187 — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:58:37 +0000

Freedom of Speech? Oh thats right we live in America! That freedom of speech thing is a myth! I watched the show where he mentioned these things and Steven who isnt my favorite person in the world made it clear that he did not blame Liverpool for these incidents just that Liverpool was involved in them. It just shows that Fox like most networks these days are spineless these days. What a joke! O&A Party Rock!

By: matt

matt — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:05:23 +0000

cohen just read a 20-30 second apology off the teleprompter, at the start of tonight’s show, looks like FSC management got to him.

By: Lex

Lex — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:33:16 +0000

I saw this coming. Only for the fact that the show has serious format problems and no clear direction. This leaves the two talking heads with too much idle time to adlib.

By: sleeperbloke

sleeperbloke — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:56:07 +0000

“his days are numbered because one day Fox will realize that America doesn?t need ?experts by accent? lecturing us about a game we grew up on.”

I’ve been saying for a long time now that Cohen, Geber and Nick Webster are an example of the danger FSC is playing with when it hires people for no other reason than they have an English accent.

By: garth

garth — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:00:20 +0000

Easy, lads. I assume you’re merely interested in a healthy debate over a few pints, but still…

By: bwunderlick

bwunderlick — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:09:36 +0000

Scott, do you mean “Coach and Horses” (along with “Cat and Fiddle”, and “Pig and Whistle” (don’t ask)), which are in Hollywood? Or “Fox and Hound” which is in the Valley? This is important!

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:29:55 +0000

Somebody mentioned in a thread on RAWK that this turd-bubble apparently hangs out in the Fox and Hound in Hollywood…. so if some scouser were to show him the appropriate response… well, I’d be more than alright with that.

By: LG

LG — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:17:21 +0000

Two complete English douchebags on TV…I can’t watch that show, won’t watch that show, refuse to watch that show, and preferrably will never see those two fucking morons on TV again. If FOX was smart, they would hire Garth and Lukey the Czech to host that show…now that would be entertaining…

By: garth

garth — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:22:26 +0000

Correction made. Gracias.
-Ed.

By: frank

frank — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:14:45 +0000

actually, Heysel took place in 1985 and Hillsbourough was in 1989